If you watched the Rock of Love reunion, you know that isn't quite the rock of love that Bret had thought. Now we can bring you the full story from Jes' perspective. They say that winning isn't everything, it's the only thing, but for Jes, it amounts to...well, very little.

After the jump, Jes tells us about the only time she talked to Bret in the six months between the taping of Rock of Love and the reunion. She lets us know what she really thinks of Bret, what she's up to now and why she thinks Heather should have won.

Earlier, you told me that you talked to Bret just once between the taping of the show and the reunion. Tell me about that conversation.

It was never a direct phone call. His manager called me and connected me with Bret. But before that, I had this cowboy hat that Bret gave me in Mexico and his manager called me: "I need his hat back, can you ship it to this address?" Oh, and you want me to pay for it, too? Great. That's why I just kind of lost it on the reunion show. He had someone call me and connect me with Bret, who then asked, "Do you want to come to the St. Louis show?" It's like no, I don't. He extended that offer to me, but I know he did the same thing for Rodeo and Brandi. He threw that point in my face at the reunion, but I didn't bring that up: Brandi was there and Rodeo was there, so it wasn't as big of a secret as it needs to be. That doesn't make me feel special.

Did you think going into it that this would be something that would last? That the six months would be filled with phone calls and text messages?

When I first started the show, I even said, "I have no expectations." I made that clear. But then once the show ended, once the cameras were off, the vibe was totally different. I could see that the situation was: go your separate ways.

Did that disappoint you?

No. I was bitter toward it by the end. People s*** on us for being there for the wrong reasons, but I wondered if Bret was the one that was there for the wrong reasons.

If you didn't have any expectations, why even do the show? Most of the girls at least expected to attempt to look for love...

That's the thing. I was approached by someone in casting. I was bartending and they drilled me: "You have to go, you have to go." I blew off my first audition and they called me: "Where are you?" So I went on the show and I just did it for the experience. Let's see what happens, was basically my attitude.

Much was made about you letting your guard down. That seemed to start on your first solo date with Bret when he played you the song onstage. Were you indeed falling for him at that point?

No. The whole entire thing was awkward. It looks like I'm gazing into his eyes, but really, it was uncomfortable. Like: I'm trying to have a serious conversation with you and you're serenading me. He agreed, too. Later he said, "I probably shouldn't have sung to you before we had an actual conversation." Yeah, probably not.

But it really did seem like you were into him. You cried in Cabo when he presented you with the needle that he'd need you to revive him with, should he fall into a coma.

After five weeks, I was mentally, physically and emotionally worn out. This guy is sitting here going, "If I go into a diabetic coma, shoot this in my ass or I could die." This was after five weeks of dealing with this s*** and then hearing that from someone you like as a person? It just made me lose it. Like, "I can't f***ing deal with it." Don't get me wrong, I cared about him as a person. But I was emotionally drained. I was done with it.

Do you regret being so competitive with Heather?

Yeah, I do. There were reasons we made it to the end, but now I feel bad because I feel like I stopped Heather from getting what she wanted if the potential was there.

Because you said on the reunion that you thought she should be with him.

And I truly do after watching the show. Just seeing how they interacted on the set of the reunion, they're still laughing. They have those stupid inside jokes that no one else gets.

You said at one point that you got to know Bret "sexually." Did you have sex with Bret?

Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

It's kind of bad-ass of you to go on the reunion and be completely honest about your feelings. I think a lot of people would have played along.

I'm not having it. I'm not putting on a facade. Before the show, I asked the producers, can I do it? Can I flip the script and say what I have to say? And they said, "Do it." I ran with it and that was me.

So you go to the reunion, and you're feeling, what? Resentment?

When I first got the phone call about the reunion, I didn't want to go because I didn't want f***ing drama with the girls. I didn't want to start it up again. To me, I was mentally and physically done with the drama and done with the show. I just didn't want to bring it back into my life six months later. But I did end up showing up. I saw some of the girls and it immediately put me at ease. I had a different vibe of energy come over me. I was scared because of the girls. I didn't have resentment for Bret or anything, I just went to say what I wanted to say.

So you go to the reunion and you're worried about the drama with the girls, but who else besides Lacey did you have to worry about? Heather?

Well, she and I talked very soon after the last episode filmed and just hashed it out. I apologized for saying the things I did. We've been emailing each other back and forth. I found out that she's not dancing and I'm proud of her. I have a lot of respect for that. Heather and I understand that we said things we might not normally say in a different situation. I think she's a great girl and I consider her a friend of mine.

While on stage [in a bit not shown on TV], Bret asked you to dinner on stage and you said that your flight was leaving at midnight. True?

Yeah. My flight left at 11:50. I was being 100 percent dead honest. I wasn't there to rekindle anything. To me, it is what it is.

How far removed are you at this point? If Bret called you tomorrow in search of closure, would you talk to him?

If he wanted to call me and ask about my thoughts, I would tell him straight-up: "I'm not bitter towards you. I'm not holding a grudge. This is what I think, take it or leave it."

And so what's your relationship status now?

I'll say I've moved on. Definitely.

And what's coming up for you? You do hair, right?

I'm a licensed hair stylist, but I'm not working in a salon. I'm just bartending. I was working in this salon for like six years and I was the head color educator for the company. I did all that by the age of 22 and I never had a life. So recently I figured, "Screw that, it's time to have a life." But in terms of other things, I'm doing club appearances. I'm endorsed by a clothing company. I might come out with my own line. We're gonna call it J Rock.

What about the entertainment industry? Are you going to stick with it?

If I can, yeah. I don't know if I'd do acting, though. If I could do modeling, I'd totally do that.

Overall, was your experience on the show bad?

It had its good points and it had its bad points. It was a good experience because I learned about myself and met some cool people. Would I ever do it again? Absolutely not. I'll make appearances on a show, but I'll never go all-out like this again. No way.

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Comments

[Tammy]

I can not believe the reunion show. That was the worst. How could Jes end up not with Bret when Heather wanted too. I wonder will Heather and Bret end up together after all or will he end up by himself?

[Destiny]

I CAn't believe how the reunion ended! They should have spent less time on LAcey and more time on Jess and Brett, b/c it all happened so quickly! They could have given Jess more time to explain why she did what she did! I think a lot of people will be disapointed the way it turned out! Did he end up with Heather or not?!?!?!

[cb]

I'm so surprised of this outcome. I initially wanted Jes to win bc she's clearly the coolest & prettiest girl. but now that i think of it, heather may have been a better choice for bret bc of their perfect connection, they really click well. and let's face it he likes that stripper type, whether or not she's quit. maybe they shud get back together? either way it was a dissapointing reunion, but i'd be so curious if bret and heather reconnected. they shud and then have a show!

[Amber]

so does this mean that heather and bret will get together or is this it for bret? what a cliffhanger! no fair!

[dd]

Such a surprise. I had a feeling Bret was looking for some publicity more than for love. What a scam. Jes seems a little defensive bc she is probably hurt by the phoneness.

[ms. frost]

just another celeb suckfest.

[Starr]

What a let down? Seems Jes was let down too. Just what was Bret looking for? He must have known Jess was feeling it too. What a crock, I was really into Bret and Jes, thought he was cool that he was looking for someone just into him, but I guess he likes varitey, sad in a way, just another middleage rocker who has let love pass them by for a piece of a** as usual. Oh well, live and learn. Jess , you are better off without this loser. This reunion show really showed its viewers, who I might add, made this a top rated show, what you really think of your viewers, fool us once, but you won't fool us again.

[DONNA]

Good for you Jes! Someone who finally speaks the truth. I figured some of it was fake, but Bret really seemed like a genuine guy. I now think it was all just for his publicity. Shame on me for believing it. I waited all week for this Reunion show and it was such a let down. Who the hell thought we wanted to see Lacey sing? Lacey has to be the most hated reality star to date. And no way was she acting! The girl needs to be locked up in a crazy ward! Jes, hope life works out great for you!

[Lisa]

Has anyone else realized that all these outcomes have been less than stellar?

Flavor of Love
Flavor of Love 2
I Love New York
Rock of Love

All failures. (Charm School doesn't count cause, well, it's not a dating show.) I'm all for more entertainment but it doesn't seem like this is working for anyone.

[e]

Ok really? That reunion show sucked. I don't know I don't think the host was a good fit, even though I know he was an MTv VJ right? Or he hosted something else? I can't place it.

Anyway - Way too much time spent on Lacey, what gives?? Heather and Jes were the main ones and they split the last 15 minutes? That's just wrong.

I admire Jes though for being truthful, it really seems like she didn't know what to expect - being put off that Bret didn't contact her in those 6 months after the show, but I'm pretty sure that's standard procedure. Chin up kid, you're beautiful.

[EmmaNY]

that show was awesome!! yeah! I heard the coolest and best comments from the best women I was rooting for: Sam and Jes. I loved it! It's inspiring to be strong like that. I want to give a lot of love for them. And wish them luck finding love in the very REAL way. That is the toughest thing in the world.

~god bless~

[Matt]

I thought the reunion show was a major major let down. Seemed to be very cheaply done and the host was horrific. He was chessy and and did a very poor job. Even though I still lie Jess she sort of gave the impression that a little super stardom had set in with her. She big time Bret a little out on stage and understanbly so. I guess six months wears on ya after a while and time to clear ya thoughta and away from the emotions. Understand Heather and him are a better fit, but Jess seemed totally uninterested in the show and Bret. For some reason I really like Bret , but he is a true corn ball. I think he cares about peoples feelings or least wants everyone to like him. You could tell he was a little nervous. He had some bad jokes. Hope we stay updated with what goes on. Brandy M needed more love on the show. The actual show itself was great. Loved it

[Courtney]

I was upset about the reunion show was a major let down. I wish I could have seen more about jess and bret and heather. I loved to see Jess win, but I now that I think about it yes Heather should have won she was totally in love with him, but I do see where he was comming from, about the whole thing he just came out of serious relationship and he didn't want to jump right back into another one. I think he truly liked Heather, but he was scared to fall. at some point I think the producers drived him to pick jess also for a good ending something that people kinda didnt expect. I saw the tention between him and jess from the point she came on the stage, and there was not tention between him and heather, but I wanted to see more about him and heather do they end up together or do they not? I really didnt want to see that much of lacy. I don't think she was there for any of the right reasons she seemed unconfortable on the show and the reunion. I hope to see Heather and Bret come together. Maybe they will. I think they should have shown more of jess and heather and less of Lacy and the other girls. I wonder where Rodeo was comming from with the whole thing can you give me a second chance thing. I wish all the best for all of them and hope Heather and bret can come together as a couple.

[Dixie]

I think it was the Lacey Show instead of "Rock of Love - Bret Michaels" because Lacey's Daddy probably paid VH1 off or invested to get his Schizoid daughter some time cause she'd never make it on her own.

It was a Daddy Pay-off to keep Lacey on the show and make the Reunion the Lacey Show. I turned it off and deleted VH1 from my DVR. I can't believe Bret Michaels went along with this. You could see the "ick" factor in his eyes everytime he talked about Lacey on camera. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Dixie]

I loved Sam & Jes!!! Heather is hardcore and probably the only one that could brush Bret off when he ends up with another groupie at a show cause she's more interested in herself and in that life - that's probably a good thing cause ya gotta have a toughness about ya and she knows the lifestyle.

Yet, I did think Bret had a brain and was actually looking for something real and not just for the fake boobs stripper look, I actually thought maybe for once you'd see a Hollywood type do the right thing? Not that he should be with someone that young but maybe with someone that has real standards.

All the girls from the show will have a future - so that's probably why they did the show - I could not have done something like that. Major major CAT FIGHT!!! I think "Big John" should have hooked up with someone! He looks like a nice guy. Love those big hands on that big gorgeous hunk of man!! hahahaha!

[michelle]

can't bret just spit out one simple answer, without looking around for help or stumbling on hollywood catch phrases and basic generality? did anyone notice during the season that he was playing all sides of the situation, as he was signed to do? it's all tv crack and we're all addicted, but let's not pretend we didn't know the egg was rotten. he doesn't sound like a cowboy, he sounds like he's in the press room. we found the white flava flav. fantastic. ladies, now make your way to the next charm school... but please, leave lacey out of it. even celebreality crackheads don't like her.

[Jennifer]

I think he needs someone strong to be his girlfriend. Its obvious to me he has a need for someone that will love him and provide him with guidance. Because who among us, can handle life on our own?
When I was watching the show, (and you see things clearer when the episodes are back to back) that none of them could provide him with the support and love he wanted. I think Bret handled the situation and the show the way anyone would. It can be very tough to find someone who will be your soul mate.
I was really expecting Heather to be his choice, but it was clear to me and probably for him that the level of support and love he was looking for was not in her. When she didnt want to stop their date, when Bret was feeling sick. The man had something very serious going on and she was ignoring it. I hope he doesn't talk to her anymore for his own sanity, because she will definatly break his heart.
I think he got to know himself more,during this experience. You never stop learning.

Keep looking Bret! Your true love is out there. Maybe even me! ;)

[Anon]

On Rodeo: Until I saw the reunion I had been thinking that Rodeo was the one Bret really cared about the most, and that they were gonna end up getting together in the end. But at the reunion it became obvious that Bret didn't share the intensity of emotions for Rodeo that she does for him.....kind of made me a little sad for her. Guess he liked her more as a friend than anything else.
On Tiffany: Was everybody surprised (and disappointed) that Tiffany didn't get any air time? After all, she was the star of the show in the first couple of episodes!
On Lauren: (Yeah, WHO?!! is right!) What the hell was she doing there? We never heard her voice or saw any spark of personality during the entire but brief time she was in the house, nor did we tonight. But at least the camera showed a second of her smiling this time, which is more than we can say for when she was on the show. Why would she even bother coming to the reunion, and why would anybody care if she was there?!
On Bret finding TRUE LOVE!: I suggest they start all over with a new batch of girls, only this time call it, "Crock of Love"

[Brandi]

I'm pissed!! These shows are just a waste of time and spaced!! If their not going to stay together then why do these shows!! Rich I hope you do recaps for ILNY2 and FOL3 because I'm not watching anymore!!

[:-p]

Now, knowing how she truly feels about him, that pic of them hugging up there creeps me out! Ewww...what is she thinknig inside? The caption should read: "get your fat mitts off me you old, loser fakey!" lol

[Jes Fan]

We got punked. I won't give VH1 or Bret Michaels my viewership again.

[ALEX BAY]

I LOVED the the end!!! I love Jess attitude. She knew that the past 6 months, if Bret wanted he would've find a way to see her. There is always a way, when you really want somebody. He wanted air time.

[jammer]

Posted by: EmmaNY | October 08, 2007 at 12:00 AM

I thought the reunion show was a major major let down. Seemed to be very cheaply done and the host was horrific.

Do you even KNOW who the host was? It was RIKKI RACHTMANN, the host of Headbangers' Ball (maybe not presently, but he was the host when Poison were huge, and throughout the 90s). I wouldn't say he was horrific, but it was a waste to use him; he's better than this reality dating show bs. I dunno, Heather and Jes are better off without Bret, and Lacey is better off NOT singing or performing anywhere (not even her shower) ever again. how embarrassing. Yeah, an utter waste of time. and NO TALKING TO TIFFANY?!? WTF!

[devilwomanizcu]

I WAS SO SO SO DISAPPOINTED.I WAS SUCH A HUGE FAN OF THE SHOW. AND I FEEL LIKE I WAS ROBBED OF A PART OF MY LIFE. THE REUNION SHOW JUST LEFT ME WITH A EMPTY FEELING OF MIXED EMOTIONS.
I LOVED BRET AND JES AND SO WANTED IT TO BE A LITTLE MORE REAL.LIKE THERE WAS A REAL ATTEMPT BY BRET,TO KEEP IN TOUCH AND SHOW TRUE FEELINGS FOR HER.BUT TO FIND OUT SHE WAS TREATED JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER GIRLS JUST REALLY ROCKED MY WORLD.
BRET I STILL LOVE YA,AND JES I HOPE U FIND UR TRUE ROCK OF LOVE.HEATHER AND BRET WILL NEVER WORK CAUSE YOU'LL ONLY MAKE GOOD FRIENDS THERES NO REAL CHEMISTRY.
MY HOPE IS THAT BRET AND JES GET TOGETHER AND TALK AND MAYBE SHE CAN LET HER GUARD DOWN AND FIND THAT LOVE CONNECTION THAT WAS TRULEY THERE,AND TRY AND UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS A PRODUCED SHOW BUT WHAT SHE AND BRET FELT WAS THE REAL DEAL.AND TRY TO SEE HOW IT COULD WORK IN EVERYDAY LIFE.

[snoopy]

My question is, why the 6 month separation? Bret and Rikki both seemed to be well aware that the separation was 'part of the deal', but Jess seemed completely surprised by the fact. It was like from her point of view he just didn't call her for 6 months. Why was this aspect never explained and how in the world did it add to the show to separate the winners for that period of time? Did they think it would add a dynamic to the reunion show? Because, please, the reunion show was anything but dynamic. Sadly, I was totally into the show the entire time and looked forward to Sunday nights just for the entertainment, but the ending and reunion ruined the whole show. And it wasn't because I didn't get my way, I wanted Jess to win, but the 'fun' just wasn't there for the reunion. I call a 'do over'! HAHAHA!